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Currently, roughly 500 civilizations are known to the Alliance. Only 15 of those are extant. More than a half of the rest was discovered due to abnormal radioactive isotope spread and concentration on their former homeworlds, mainly Uranium-235.



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Anónimo

"Heh, I have seen much worse. There is this one species of big brutes, green skin, noisy, anarchic and literally live only to kill everything else. I swear they would have wiped themselves out if they also didn't reproduce by spores. Good thing they will never evolve beyond cavemen stage"

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ZaCour

Wiki's and Google are not history, they are what is wanted to be seen. Controlled and edited to fit the narrative. I am really enjoying the story line and the author is doing a very good job of putting every day things in the story. Be well and prosper Biomech.

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Darth_Biomech

Controlled and edited to fit the narrative.

Dan, log in under your own account, please.

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Silence

Love this shutdown of "Humans are the real monsters", every species is going to have a dark spot in its history, or multiples of them. It's the sad part of being sapient, knowing that your kind has done bad.

Gharr's response that his own kind has done its dark deeds is in a way, hopeful. That they can rise above their past to be better, so can we. It also makes them easier to relate to knowing that they're not some all perfect beings like our human friend here is expecting them to be.

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MattedFont

"Humans suck!"

"So does everybody else."

"No, but we REALLY suck! Like, especially so!"

"This is starting to sound like a personal issue."

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Wouter215

I just thought of something, wouldn't Gharrs internet/Wikipedia searches raise some red flags here?

Assuming the entire town is under surveillance by now, the sudden & unprompted searches for human history & language would draw some attention. (At least if those doing the surveilling know they're looking for an alien.)

I wonder if this is how the government/Quantum/"the ghosts" would find Gharr.

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Quantum has, thus far, been very restricted in his searching to avoid detection, due mostly to the rules around contact. It's possible that he can be more direct now the leaders of Earth, at least, are aware but it depends if the revelation of these "ghost's" presence would require additional caution.

I'm uncertain if searches on human history and language in Wikipedia would really draw any attention. It'd be more searches about conspiracy stuff and alien landings but they have two things in their favour:

1. Dan is likely paranoid enough he has some protections in place for his browsing

2. Even if those protections aren't enough, searches about aliens and conspiracies probably aren't out of the norm for Dan's search history anyway

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Gharr: "Did you know we have warships in our exploration fleet? Wonder why?"

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Honestly, if more than half of the 500 known civilizations were discovered due to indications of large scale nuclear war then you'd think that would permit another exemption to the first contact rule that once they hit nuclear weapons technology it's time to say hello and hold their hand a little through that part.

Then again, maybe its better for peace in the Alliance that the members have managed to reach space WITHOUT destroying themselves.

The "Great Filter" of unworthy civilisations. Rule 1: Don't kill yourselves. Rule 2: See Rule 1...

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"Did you know we have warships in our exploration fleet?"

"How would we know, given that the only side to have opened fire on the other so far is us!?"

(The proof is in the pudding...ification of something expendable.)

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More than a half of the rest was discovered due to abnormal radioactive isotope spread and concentration on their former homeworlds, mainly Uranium-235.

235U would be unused fuel of nukes, rather than fallout produced from those that did explode. For long-extinct-by-nuclear-war civilizations, 241Am would be a better indicator (as 137Cs, 131I and 90Sr have shorter half-times) ...

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Wouter215

I wonder if unusually high concentrations of 43Tc would be an indicator of past civs, since its really rare in nature, mostly lab made on earth.

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Wouter215

Sorry, 97/98Tc, 43 is the atomic number not the isotope.

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97Tc and 98Tc are extremely long-lived (half-life of 4.2some million years), even when compared to 241Am (432.2 years), so, given that the war has been long enough since, they will become the better indicators. However, there aren't lots of either produced in nuclear warfare.

60Co and 152Eu are said to be particularly indicative of nuclear weapons blasts, and 137Cs and 90Sr would be the best gauges on how deadly the contamination would have been for lifeforms such as ourselves, but all those have much shorter half-lives, between a couple years and somewhat over a century.

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Keith

Thanks, been decades since I worried about these things and frankly. I was more worried about patient survival/decontamination because that's what I did for a living. I never had time to worry draining the Nile when I'm up to my eyebrows in Hippopotami. I say it that way because it's way more serious than swamps and alligators.

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Wouter215

Gharr looking at some of the darker spots of human history on Wikipedia:

"Why does it say on the top of this list of genocides... You can improve this list by adding to it."?!

Dan: "Don't worry, that's just a Wikipedia thing..."

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Wikipedia being run by hostile aliens confirmed.

(Hi there, Virus!)






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