Latest blog post: How the comic is made (2025-12-26)

Author's comment:

"Have you tried to turn it off and on again?"



Add Comment

* Required information
30000
Powered by Commentics

Comments (8)

Avatar
Senior

I figure either there's semi-nefarious intent from this Earth crew member to get raw data samples because it somehow gives them a better indication of Raharran tech at the base level... or this Earther has forgone using filters because they have training to look for the anomalies first and then apply filters that could explain falst positives.

If this is related to the Ghosts and they are a super-intelligence beyond the Raharr, equally able to hack the Raharr systems, I could imagine they might have programmed the filters, long ago, to ignore certain indicators of their presence, or simply used the known filter algorithms to appear as false positives. This could go back to the idea that the Ghosts may have left equipment or devices behind for monitoring Earth that were designed to avoid detection by Terrans and their technology but might be succeptable to the Raharr tech.

Of course, we have no idea about what data or anomaly they're looking over.

Avatar
Senior

Yeah, was thinking along the same lines , not as eloquent , more like "unknown fourth party (ghosts) has tampered with the complete Tech-infrastructure of the third party (alliance) so they remain non the wiser than the second party (humanity) and thus first party (the readers)

If someone can do that to your systems over , say hundreds of years , and remain undiscovered you do not need a second handicap

Avatar
Senior

"Have you tried to turn it off and on again?"

[insert panel where, for the first time in the comic, we see an Alliance ship go completely unlit ... for a couple seconds]

"... oops."

_______

Seems we'll get the title page's scene rather early in the chapter.

What size is this ship, though? If the lit bands we see in panel 1 were "rows of windows" like in a Terran skyscraper, the decks ought to be much more spacious than the videogame arcade observation room shown in the next ... not to mention that in the inside shots so far, only the Dawn seemed to actually have windows ...

(Whereas the corridor on page 198's panel 2 pushes the size of captain Kas' cruiser's decks ... again, if those (panel 1) are rows of windows.)

Avatar
Senior

Its possible there are floors between the windowed ones with no windows. Or from this distance, multiple window lights merge a bit.

Page 10 shows a floor with windows and Page 11, Panel 1 shows it to be a similar vessel The lights appear a bit closer together there, so it could be an indication of them merging at distance. For safety, they might also consist primarily of narrow passageways for oberservation rather than windows to whole rooms.

Avatar
Admin

You have to remember that not only Alliance's rooms need to be decently spacious for members that can range from 1 to 3 m in height, but also that the decks are not directly stacked ontop of each other - there's machinery, piping and other systems in-between, so the distance from the floor of one deck to the floor of another is ~4 meters.

This ship is ~230 meters in height.

Avatar
Senior

This ship is ~230 meters in height.

[summons screen ruler app]

Then the lit bands are ~5m apart (still could be rows of windows, but that's ultimately besides the point) and the decks measure between 20m (one "side wing" on its own) and 55m (edge to edge). The observation room looks ~10m long ...

... how afraid are the Alliance crews of getting caught in an explosive decompression? From the Dawn's huge, un-subsectioned main habitat, I would've guessed "not really at all" ...

Avatar
Admin

"Distance between the windows is 5m, therefore the height of a deck is between 20 and 55m"

I do not understand how you're calculating this, honestly.

(Edited)
Avatar
Regular

during WW2, normal people could not spot fake foliage in aerial photos. someone who was color blind could see them clearly. The call went out to find more color blind people to analyze aerial photos.

Avatar
Senior

... if that's true, I would expect today's miltech to routinely offer false color representation of (now digital) aerial photos so as to allow normal-sighted people to see it clearly, too. Not to mention that the makers of camouflage nets would have improved their products to counter that ...

(If I'm remembering correctly, actual living plants can be told from fakes in infrared, because camouflage doesn't have the cooling effect of evaporating water like actual leaves do, but that ought to be out of the range of even the most severe case of color "blindness".)

Avatar
Regular

In addition in 1949 , they had technology to make a B-17 disappear in broad day light. I have seen the film. wasn't used at the time due to radar. now that we can spoof radar, I believe the tech has been pulled from the file cabinet and been implemented on some new aircraft , gen 5 and up .

Avatar
Senior

Standard RL astronomy proceedure is (generally) put the raw data through a simple false-colour display so you can 'see' what the sensors can, before poking at anything that looks interesting with more sophisticated tools. That seems to be what she's doing here.

That works better when pretty much everything is intersting enough to take a look at (ala Mars rovers et all) and you have dozens or hundreds of peopel to trrawl through the data. Less so when you're a group of 3, are borrowing someone else's equipment, and have an entire planetoid to scan. At that point you might want to learn a bit more on automation, as Blondie is advising.

Avatar
Regular

The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" but "That's funny…"

Avatar
Senior

Oh....Awkward. Or maybe its a black monolith poking out of the regolit.

Avatar
Regular

Three answers/reasons:

- force of habit

- not knowing that filters exist

- not trusting filters that you did not design/test/know the exact parameters and function of, in case they could manipulate and hide information to you, especially if created by a third party whom you barely know

(Edited)
Avatar
Visitor

Yeah here is the thing our species exists because we are really good at pattern recognition and yet it can be trained to be better than any program or app (which is another name for programming) AND looking at raw data is a good way to see the object you didn't know you were looking for.






Share this comic



The author is against any kind of application of AI to his artwork.

TRIVIA
Insectoids in a lot of ways are the weird ones among the Alliance members. Besides having a completely unpronounceable name of the species, they have dextero amino acid biochemistry, which makes their food and biosphere to be inedible by the rest of the Alliance, and vice versa.