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Unlike the civilian fleet, the equipment of military spaceships is almost always centered on a specific species, and all crew members belong to the same species. This greatly reduces the complexity of maintaining and supplying ships, while at the same time increasing their efficiency and the quality of the crew's performance. Unfortunately, this means that being a passenger on an Alliance military ship is not always comfortable - even by military standards.



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Mark Linimon

So here's the meme I want you to help me spread about ChatGPT: it's "Mansplaining As A Service".

Once you think about it that way it deflates the whole balloon :-)

(not original with me fwiw)

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Wilson

Brilliant! I'm going to go do that now.

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ANTIcarrot

My inner engineer wants to rage at all those gun barrels being pointed sideways during what is presumably a prolonged multi G burn.

I'm also surprised that issues like power and data feeds weren't addressed before departure. I assume Kas is playing office politics? And possibly thinks they can get away with a lot given Zhane's (potentially) disgraced status. And that Zhane is saying 'talk' rather than 'order' or 'tear a new one'.

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presumably a prolonged multi G burn

I'm not sure that the Alliance's grav tech, as described, would lend itself to "inertia dampers" that'd allow Zane to leisurely walk the corridors during such a multi-G acceleration ...

The cruiser is a military vessel (and the turrets particle cannons, BTW). I wonder whether that may play a role in how the captain is not entirely under Zane's orders. Trouble brewing or not, the goings-on didn't have Zane publicly "disgraced" yet - as witnessed by his statement that talking to the natives in the name of the Alliance is stil his, and his alone, purview.

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Chakat Firepaw

There's not really any reason to go multi-G, a 1G brachistochrone between Earth and Jupiter will take between 5.8 and 7.1 days, which matches the time given.

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Wouter215

Is Zane the "Fleet commander" or an Admiral? I think that Kas is the captain of this cruiser and this is more a my ship my rules kind of deal. I don't think that Zane out-ranks Kas on the what happens on this cruiser, just what the fleet as a whole does.

And is Quantum a crewmember like all the other Raharrs or just a "Guest" that does [EXPUNGED]-translation as a side-gig for the fleet so it can travel with them?

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AaGuest

QUANTUM!!!

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charlesw81

...I'm gonna have to build that ship in my Space Engineers game now. The turrets almost perfectly match the game's standard artillery turret anyway.

Some interesting and strange decorations on Quantum's core. I wonder how he transferrs from one power source to another anyway. Can he go into full shutdown or would that effectively mean death so he just has a minimal power supply for transfers.

I am a little surprised as I would have expected Quantum to be using the ship's systems to continue communicating with their satellite and gathering intel or searching for Gharr. If Quantum has been effectively locked in this room then he's been offline for the journey and unable to maintain searches of the human network.

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Darth_Biomech

Hm, they seem to have been heavily inspired by my "Minotaur Cannon" mod, model from which in turn got a bit redesigned and reused in the comic. =D

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tully

When that thing goes into orbit around the Moon, mass panic will break out......Just saying.

And will (for a short time) justify all the Preppers and the Bug-out baggers on Paranoichan!

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Wouter215

It might try to hang out at the Earth-Moon L2 Lagrange point, staying behind the moon relative to earth. It would occlude the Cruiser from direct observation.

They'd might even "peek" over the lunar horison to communicate with earth, or just piggyback on some satellite in the neighborhood.

I don't think Zane believes that all of earth "knows" about them by now, so he'd either have some stealth system on the cruiser or they need to hide behind the moon. That or he's really trusting of what not-xenopsychologist advised him between 150 & 154 and thinks humanity is capable of handling a "first-contact" on a global scale without mass-chaos or disastrous consequences.

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JoB

Except that the L2 is far enough behind the moon that it is visible from (large parts of) Earth's surface, as witnessed by the fact that we put Moon-to-Earth radio relays there ...

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The reason we can see thees relays is that they orbit the Lagrange point. I'm not sure they would be so visible if they were siting exactly at the equilibrium point. According to ChatGPT (I was too lazy to check it myself):

The angular diameter of the Earth as seen from the L2 point is approximately 1.637°

The angular diameter of the Moon as seen from the L2 point is approximately 3.236°

So Earth would be completely hidden behind the Moon at L2.

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Darth_Biomech

ChatGPT always lies, you can't trust it.

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Chakat Firepaw

(Really for Darth Biomech, but the page isn't letting me reply directly.)

I ran the calculations myself and the numbers are correct.

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JoB

... dammit, should've pulled the numbers myself ...

(Moon to L2 is 0.16 R, Earth to L2 hence 1.16 R, so Earth is 7.25 times as far from L2 as the Moon, but Earth has only 3.66 times the diameter of the Moon.)

On a more serious note, however: Zane specifically said that the cruiser would go into an orbit around the Moon.

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@Darth_Biomech: ChatGPT was too stupid to figure this out by itself, but after I spelled the path to the solution out for it, it used code interpreter do do an exact calculation. Basically I used it as an overcomplicated calculator that understand natural language. I would rather have used Wolfram Alpha, but that didn't even understand what I wanted it to compute.

On its own, ChatGPT tried to compare the angular radius of the moon to the angular distance of the L2 point from the moon, both seen from earth. That is of course total nonsense, especially the part about the distance from moon to L2, because that would only make sense if the point was beside the moon. So yes, one shouldn't trust ChatGPT, and I don't. That's why I caught its mistake and even after correcting it wrote I wasn't "so sure".

How far along are Mankind's AIs in your story? Do they even exist? How does Quantum feel about their primitive malfunctions?

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When that thing goes into orbit around the Moon, mass panic will break out

... you sure? At a length of 266 m, that cruiser would fit 380 times into Plato. I doubt that anyhuman would be able to see it with the naked eye, even if told where on the lunar surface to look for it.

(As usual, assuming that the ship crew finally does a bit of rocket science and turns those position lights off.)

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wolf ryet

Quantum has no access to ship computers and sensors. Before he was essentially tied to the entire fleet resources as well as all the personnel. Worse than a human in a jail cell. Akin to being deaf and blind.

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Silence

Quantum Computing is neat

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Wouter215

I suppose for Quantum, this is like traveling on a cruise ship, but instead of a room all you get is your own single suitcase. I'd go mad after just one day without access to wi-fi...

If this is Quantum's only instance, it's taking a big risk here by coming so close to earth. Could it even upload itself to the fleet from here? Or to earth? Or is it stuck in the (I mean this specific) cube?

By the way, how long has it been since the shuttlecrash and now?

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Darth_Biomech

AC's aren't your typical Holywood AIs that can magically transfer themselves to a toaster over wifi if need be.

Their operation hinges on specific hardware, so their code won't even be recognized by any other computer, let alone run on it. And due to the quantum nature of it all, copying the code to an identical copy of the hardware doesn't result in a copy of the AC, it turns out more like a clone son, with their own personality.

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It's stuck in that hardware. A mortal computer.

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tully

Jeez Quantum.....Get decent, your parts are showing!

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Considering that "measurements" collapse quantum states, chances are that your looking at 'em constitutes assault and battery ...

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Considering that Quantum apparently did the brunt of analyzing the intel coming from Earth, having him put on rations, so to speak (if not outright isolated from the feed), sounds rather stupid ...

A core unit with Ktak ornaments? I take that as a hint that Quantum can not upload/transfer himself to other hardware at will. He's probably cursing himself for not just bringing a generator along from the Dawn, though.

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Darth_Biomech

I've carefully drawn the cable to signify that Quantum isn't just waiting there on the accumulators but at least hooked into the wall power socket... And almost all of it got covered up by the dialogue bubbles (and I think I messed up the brightness of the scene a bit).

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Wouter215

It doesn’t look too bright, I mean there is a bright blue glowing hologram in the room.

Also, God can you imagine the stack of traveler converter plugs Quantum would need?

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JoB

... a power cable that thick, even with our technology, would be able to carry a couple dozen kilowatts at least. With no visible cooling system - i.e., just the surrounding ship atmosphere doing convection (which requires gravity, hence Zane doesn't float in to visit ) -, keeping Quantum from melting into a puddle should be quite a challenge ...

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JoB

convection (which requires gravity, hence Zane doesn't float in to visit )

... aaaaaand looking at the trivia randomly displayed to me:

"Dawn" class mothership and "Lake" class tankers are the only spacecraft in the Exploration fleet that can create artificial gravity while not under acceleration.

I realize that as soon as cpt. Kas cuts the thrust of this much smaller ship (to swing around and begin deceleration), Quantum will get quite a problem there ...

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Maybe the cable is that thick because it's not only for power but also for coolant?

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JoB

Hopefully, but the author did write that it's plugged into a "wall power socket" ...

(Hmmm, designing a connector that safely makes and breaks contacts for both (electric?) power and (possibly conductive) coolant would be a nice piece of engineering ... )

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JoB

More thoughts on Quantum vs, zero-G: His core was built in a Ktak colony, where natural gravity supposedly was a given. Would it be equipped with magnets or whatnot able to prevent it randomly floating around in zero-G? It doesn't look like the longshoreRaharrs who brought him in affixed it to the cabin's floor in any way ... fifteen lashes for not properly lashing the cargo passenger, ya landlubbers!

(Also, why are there handle bars all along the corridor to help the biologicals move about in zero-G, but not inside the cabin?)

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Lord Eric

That problem is probably solved by the ship's cabin ventilation. For that matter, the braincase might be efficient enough to not need much cooling; I have a brain myself, and I don't need a cooling fan except in summer.

As for coolant hoses, it wouldn't be terribly hard to make clean-disconnect connectors for them. Those already exist for many fluids, notably hydraulic lines. A bigger problem would be whether the ship's passenger cabins have plumbing for the stuff.

As for the size of the power cable, it may be rated for way more power than the cabin wall socket will actually supply. Or it might be a multipurpose conduit that contains other lines in addition to the actual power cable.

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JoB

I have a brain myself, and I don't need a cooling fan except in summer.

Well, yeah. That's because your brain consumes a couple dozen Watts, tops, not kilowatts. (Also, it's not exactly your brain that requires the extra cooling.) If it were able to suckle electric energy instead of sugars, it could run on two leads of bell wire.

As for the size of the power cable, it may be rated for way more power than the cabin wall socket will actually supply.

Hmmmm, seeing the neat fitting atop the core, it seems to be that the cable itself comes with Quantum, rather than being supplied by the ship crew. In that case, it would be rated for his max power consumption, of course ...

[imagines clunky plug on other end being "fit" into the wall socket with said bell wire and a bunch of electrical tape ... while the safety inspector gives Zane an earful for his request of running even more power through that ship-fire-in-waiting]






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So far there hasn't been a single instance of a massive interstellar war. Due to the vastness of space, there's no territorial or economic gain from it. The presence of armed spaceships is still warranted for keeping space travel safe and for peacekeeping or policing missions since unexpected events or rogue states can still happen and might require force as a solution.